44 Mag Vs 308 Deer

But not too long ago, Ruger released an all-weather configuration M77 Mark II bolt-action rifle in. 300 ACC Blackout 30-30 Winchester (NEW!) 308 Winchester 7. 44 special can be loaded to do what 95% or more of what people buy the. 270 Winchester is a rifle cartridge developed by Winchester Repeating Arms Company in 1923 and unveiled in 1925 as a chambering for their bolt-action Model 54. 30-caliber cartridges will come out on top. Tests by the great Jack O'conner showed that one of the best brush busters was the 12 gauge slug. 300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. A time-proven configuration from a time proven company, the Redfield Revolution offers exactly the kind of variable power scope you need for your next deer hunt. Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic. 44 mag has at the muzzle. Owner of Buffalo Bore Tim Sundles on Heavy Deer Grenade 44 Magnum +P Ammunition: Buffalo Bore's Deer Grenade 44 Mag. 300 Blackout/. Frankly we can't use any of the above in Indiana anyway. 44 cartridge is even more flexible in a rifle by tweaking powder charges to develop inexpensive handloads with light recoil or work up high velocity or magnum loads in a rifle’s longer barrel to increase its reach. of energy for the. 44 Magnum Ruger Blackhawks are still in production, and have been joined by numerous other makes and models of. The 264 Winchester Magnum, like many cartridges with big cases and skinny bullets, has developed a reputation as a “barrel burner”. [/ QUOTE ] I fail to see why the 308 would be a huge risk. Sight in at 100 and you'll be fine at any range in-between. We use cookies to improve your browsing experience. 308 Winchester is 2. Winchester Model 1873 Lever Action, 357 Magnum/38 Special, With 24" Octagon BBL, 14+1 Grade II/III Walnut Stock Blued Out of stock View Details » View Details » Out of stock. I can only deer hunt with a revolver, so I use 44 magnum myself. and the furthest just over 1,300 yds. 5 Creedmoor vs 7mm Rem Mag-Recoil On Tanya’s mule deer hunt I loaded mild loads for her to shoot all summer, then loaded full house loads for the deer hunt. 44 Magnum is well-suited for game up to elk size. Obviously, I can’t talk about modern. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the. Cimarron 1873 Sporting Lever Action Rifle. Make the ammo you want with Rifle Brass from Hornady, Berger, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, and more for sale at Midsouth. 357 Magnum Enough for Deer Hunting” on November 17. 300 Winchester Magnum. elk, or deer at sensible ranges. 44 mag carbine (1894 Marlin) or 45-70 (GG) would be a better choice for defense against bears (and other predators) on a ranch in Montana. I was speaking ONLY about this one scenario. 357 Magnum,. Let's take a 200 grain,. The Remington Model 700® CDL SF is the perfect blend of time-proven performance and modern updates. Missouri Bullet Company offers premium lead bullets at affordable prices. Naturally, the 30-30 flings its bullets much faster than the 44 mag, and has a considerably higher energy — but I can attest that the 44 magnum with good 240-grain jacketed bullets is one heck of a fine game-getter. bullets with both fired from Marlin 336 lever action rifles, especially at 100 yards. That would be more than enough range in the dense south Florida vegetation. 44 magnum, 240 gr. 308 are legal (such as the. 308 is a reloader’s dream, being very accommodating of a wide range of projectiles and powders, with usually excellent accuracy. Shot at Point Blank with. Rounds Per Box: 20. If you go with a x frame in 460 or 500 your getting up around a 30-06. The key to the 44 is a proper bullet. That makes it 23. The site navigation utilizes arrow, enter, escape, and space bar key commands. This round came about by necking down a 308 Winchester case to accept 7mm bullets. Close in a 44 mag is usually higher energy and with hard cast are good for dangerous game. 62 (2) 325 (1) 8mm (4) 338 (29) 340 (3) 35 (4) 35. 308 affords, then the. 357 Magnum vs 44 Magnum: History The. 44 Special handloads presaged an even more potent round. 308 adequate for elk-size game. The key to the 44 is a proper bullet. The ‘true’ loads that existed in the heyday of the. 357, 44 mag, and 45-70 will all put deer in your freezer. 5 CM load has already surpassed a match. HoneyBadger™ doesn’t need hollow points and does not depend on them for performance. To learn more about how we use cookies, please review our privacy policy here. But if you're not all about gearing up only for bear, I would steer as far as a 9mm. The Gun Shots Plus: California makes gun owners criminals if accused of crime That is a remarkable number — one in every 20 citiz. It generates a punishing amount of recoil and is not enjoyable for most people shooting at the pistol range. bullets vs. The higher velocity means this round is going to shoot flatter at longer ranges than the. 300 Win Mag and the more than capable. Tests by the great Jack O'conner showed that one of the best brush busters was the 12 gauge slug. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. I have used a 7mag,and a 300,but never realized any advantage over a 270,or 06,but I never have shot an elk over 300 yds. Excellence - Integrity - Service. I killed one deer with a 44 Magnum carbine. 44 Mag and other magnum pistol loads. 45 Colt specs, or up to a full power Magnum round for deer or pig hunting. I shot three deer with the 300 XTP Mag a couple of years ago. Find what you need in four easy steps. Bigger is better. Buy 308 norma mag Rifle Brass for Reloading at Midsouth Prices. 380, ammo will be cheaper, and you can hold many more rounds in a double stack magazine. Recommended Type of Action. 308 is far more powerful than the 44 mag. All have taken deer cleanly. The 264 Winchester Magnum, like many cartridges with big cases and skinny bullets, has developed a reputation as a “barrel burner”. Owner of Buffalo Bore Tim Sundles on Heavy Deer Grenade 44 Magnum +P Ammunition: Buffalo Bore's Deer Grenade 44 Mag. 430 molds and sizers. 41 Rem Mag Cowboy; Cowboy 44. 44 Magnum has earned a reputation as one of the most powerful handgun rounds available for home defense or hunting. 458 Socom – Comprehensive Comparison When it comes to “knocking down” larger targets like wild boars, we need stronger and more powerful bullets. Then I'd go with it. Magnum Research BFR. The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. I don't have reloading tables in front of me, but I seem to recall that hot loaded. 45 ACP ('15). 44 magnum is a real stopper. ” 260 Remington. 257 Weatherby Magnum, 6. I will use a 44 Magnum Ruger Carbine or a Slug-gun here in my homestate. ” This is a 240-gr soft-cast, hollow-point +P load, and it is advertised as a real game-changer when it comes to taking deer — hence the name “Deer Grenade. Whitetail Deer Cartridge Shoot-Out:. But if you're not all about gearing up only for bear, I would steer as far as a 9mm. We examine the history of these cartridges and compare them side-by-side in several categories that are important to hunters and sport shooters. XTP-FP, and haven’t ever had a deer go more than 30yds, knock on wood. Even though there are 40+ years between development of the two cartridges, they share a lot in common when used for hunting in modern times. 357 Magnum kicks considerably less. 285’’ of length. It is the more versatile of the two cartridges. Barnes® VOR-TX® is precision ammunition loaded with the deadliest bullets on the planet. And of course, any revolver chambered for. 44 MAGNUM HUNTER is the answer if you're ready to ditch your long gun and start hunting like a western badass. I killed one deer with a 44 Magnum carbine. 300 Norma Magnum. 44 Magnum and put down many a feral hog as well. 3% bigger than the. I don't have reloading tables in front of me, but I seem to recall that hot loaded. So, the cartridge was developed by Elmer Keith, Phil Sharpe, along with Smith and Wesson, by performing changes on the. If you are hunting someplace where longer shots are possible I would recommend you test your steel by shooting from the offhand at an 8 inch. Putting meat on the menu Not to discount the. This is within the power of a heavily loaded. I would like to add my 2 cents about 308 vs. Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic. This ammo delivers enormous energy and stopping power with a muzzle energy of 1194 ft. I can reach out farther with my. has many more available choices of ammunition and reloading components. is just as easy-handling, faster and more powerful in every way. You might push it out with higher performance reloads but I'd bump up to a. 44 bullets performed very well in both cases. 308 is about 250 ft-lbs of energy more powerful at the muzzle, a match 6. Paul pits a Marlin 30-30 rifle against a Marlin 44 magnum rifle. Remington HTP 44 Remington Magnum Ammo 240 Grain Soft Point - RTP44MG2 Remington HTP 44 Remington Magnum Ammo 240 Grain Soft Point ammo for sale online at cheap discount prices with free shipping available on bulk 44 Remington Magnum ammunition only at our online store TargetSportsUSA. We were talking, and remember handling the. I don't have reloading tables in front of me, but I seem to recall that hot loaded. There are a few reasons for this. Two of the deer went 40-50yds and one went about 70-80yds. 308 Marlin Express. The industry standard muzzle velocity of both the. A 180 grain, 0. I can only deer hunt with a revolver, so I use 44 magnum myself. 44 mag is a venerable deer harvester. Metro Atlanta FS/FT 1993 Remington 1100 12 Gauge 3" Magnum Thread in 'Shotguns' started by mcph1827, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:44 44 PM. 308 would be LOTS more effective at killing deer or game than the. 243 as does carry adequate energy downrange with its bullet selection to cleanly take deer, antelope, and pigs out to 200-300 yards. But don’t think it is limited to those states. Will use a Krieger 1:9. 357 Magnum,. 44 mag for hunting whitetail but then I decided to take a look at the ballistics on Remington's website. The round is of course less expensive than semi-auto rifle calibers. 44-40 has probably killed more deer than anything except the. A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. As you know, performance is enhanced significantly in a carbine length barrel. Keep trying diff 30-06 ammo (maybe heavier/lighter grain), use the ol'30-30, or move to a 44 mag (either lever gun or Ruger carbine)? I'm leaning towards a new 44 mag deer gun for close range deer hunting only. The experts would have you believe it “takes” at least a 1000 foot pounds of energy to cleanly kill a deer when in fact even an old black powder 45 Colt with a 250gr bullet will usually shoot thru a broadside deer. Paul pits a Marlin 30-30 rifle against a Marlin 44 magnum rifle. According to the Chuck Hawks recoil chart, for similar weight rifles (7. Out past maybe 40 yards or so the 44 mag has lost energy but the 30-30 is still good to go. 300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. 44 bullets performed very well in both cases. bullets vs. 308 Winchester is 2. 338 win mag vs. The ‘true’ loads that existed in the heyday of the. 357 Magnum cartridges were made to be used by the police department as they needed a better terminal performing handgun load in the 1930s. Not to mention the. 44 Magnum? within the Cartridges & Calibers forums, part of the Sniping Related category; Hey guys, Indiana has a law that says we can hunt with pistol calibers now. For me, that's 40m with a revolver and 100m with a rifle. 2400 and Unique are fine for special and magnum type loads, which, from your carbine, will turn into magnum and magnum+ loads. 5 when it comes to damage. In order to. 41 magnum then I go with my T/C in. 223 Rifle Acknowledgements. 30-06 Springfield best. Burning rate falls near the various 4227s. 44 Magnum is an intimidating—some would say very unpleasant—round to shoot. The Ruger Mdl. 45-70, the 300 Win mag, the 458, as of anything else. 44 Mag rifle is a great option for hunting deer. As you know, performance is enhanced significantly in a carbine length barrel. 285’’ of length. 30 caliber cartridge suited to the job. 44-40 WCF Cowboy; 44 Special Cowboy; 44 Magnum. The industry standard muzzle velocity of both the. The tensioned barrel design, as is used in all of our integral guns, offers superior accuracy when used with Engel Ballstic Research. We make hardness optimized bullets for the velocity of the loads you shoot. However, if I could find a nice ruger 44 carbine I would snap it up. I've killed deer with 44 Magnum revolvers and lever guns. 308's and currently I hunt with several caliber rifles, including a. So, according to the chart, the 308 kicks about half again as hard. 444 Marlin, Heavy 38-55 Winchester, Heavy 348 Winchester,50 Alaskan, Heavy 35 Remington, Sniper 223 Remington, Sniper 308 Winchester, Heavy 450 Marlin, Heavy 30/30. 357 Magnum Ammo. 30/06 Jim's Favorite. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o. 240 is the most common in factory ammo, but, you can get up to about 320 grain cast bullets for the. 308 has 50% more power at the muzzle, and, at 200 yards when the 44mag is taking a nose dive, the 308 is 3X the power. Examples of firearms now legal for the southern part of the state include, but are not limited to, a. 300 AAC Blackout ammo rounds. is best used with scopes in the 4x range, although irons and red-dot sights are also great. Hornady XTP bullets. 44 Mag uses relatively fast burning powders, you'll probably achieve maximum velocity in a 16 to 18 inch barrel. One deer was shot from about 20 yards and the other perhaps 50 yards, both broadside shots. At 2,400 fps that bullet will deliver 2,558 foot pounds of energy. Hunting Terrain Features. 44 Magnum revolver upgraded with a scope. with a bullet weight of 240 grns. Deer, bear, moose, elk: they’ll all go down from a well placed 308 or 30-06. 44 Magnum 19:37. this stuff literally is an old fashioned in a bottle, and at 84 proof, packs a decent punch. Entrance hole was slightly bigger than than the exit hole, in 1 1/2", out 1". 45 ACP bullet measures just slightly bigger than the. 300 Whisper. It’s available in pretty much any bolt action rifle style that you might be interested in. 308 Win is perfectly capable of taking moose. 308 Win, hands down - no questions asked. I have hunted in ,oh about 7 different states,and for me the 270,and 06 are all I ever needed. I have shot several deer, wild pigs and antelope, and a few turkeys with Nosler 165 gr Ballistic Tips, and, also several deer, wild pigs, and a few turkeys with Winchester factory loads with the 168gr Ballsitic SilverTip bullets, in the 308. 38 Special’s, so the. Buy a real gun like a 44 magnum. No caliber will make up for a miss or a poor hit. 243, or the. 308 Cons: 1. 44 mags are a little hotter than the Buffalo Bore. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. I know, the. 8 inches in overall length and. 44 Mag, no box. of energy for the. 22 caliber cartridges. Good article. 44 magnum, both with a 7. 270 is fitted with a. 5 Remington Magnum,. A time-proven configuration from a time proven company, the Redfield Revolution offers exactly the kind of variable power scope you need for your next deer hunt. When it comes to hunting elk, it is well debated whether the. 44 mag would be a bit of over kill, that and a 44 would be a lot of wieght to have to carry around. At longer ranges the advantage of the rifle cartridges is even greater. A much longer barrel may actually add drag to the bullet and slow it down. Naturally, the 30-30 flings its bullets much faster than the 44 mag, and has a considerably higher energy — but I can attest that the 44 magnum with good 240-grain jacketed bullets is one heck of a fine game-getter. 270 Winchester is very hard to beat. 308 Win, hands down - no questions asked. 44 Mag and other magnum pistol loads. Certainly the same facts are inherent in the comparison of the 41 magnum to the 44 magnum. 357 Magnum kicks considerably less. 300 Win mag will give you about an extra 100 yards or so of effective range over the. But the last couple of years I grab my 77/357 every time. Dual chambering allows the. 308 Winchester Ammo. I’ve taken numerous deer and hogs with it, and have never lost one. I was talking strictly about 240gr Hydra-Shocks in a 4 inch barrel vs 200gr Underwoods out of a G20. 300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. wide flat-nosed LBT bullets effective in the. Magnum Research BFR. 308 Winchester. 240 is the most common in factory ammo, but, you can get up to about 320 grain cast bullets for the. 44 mag vs 12 gauge slug Which do you guys think is more accurate a single shot. Kinda got away from the caliber but two years ago came back to it. If you lived in thicketed and wooded "backcountry", the. 30-30 Ammo For Hunting Deer & Other Big Game. 308 is a reloader’s dream, being very accommodating of a wide range of projectiles and powders, with usually excellent accuracy. 308, but for all practical purposes you would probably be better off getting an AR10. But the extra velocity of the magnum only lasts about 100 yards. A full sized 9mm will have less felt recoil than a compact. 44 mag THINK they need. It's called trajectory. 5 Creedmoor vs 7mm Rem Mag-Recoil On Tanya’s mule deer hunt I loaded mild loads for her to shoot all summer, then loaded full house loads for the deer hunt. They are accurate, easy to clean, and easier to use for most shooters than the lever action rifles. 44 Magnum pistol built for hunting. While some people may say comparing the. Currently the only 44 I have is the Mountain Gun, and I have standardized on two loads. 308 or 30-o6 and the 7mm uses the same heads as the 280 so when you can hand load a 280 with the premium barnes and get the same ballistics as a 7mm rem mag, but with much less recoil it becomes a better option for many. 30-06 or 7mm Remington Magnum®. 300 Weatherby Magnum,. is best used with scopes in the 4x range, although irons and red-dot sights are also great. A 180 grain, 0. 44 mag and one hog with a Speer 300g psp from my. From the little. The parent cartridge of. 44 mag is still a pistol round, and is loaded as such. was referred to as the 270win. Standard overall cartridge length for the 44 Magnum, as defined by SAAMI, is 1. But if you're not all about gearing up only for bear, I would steer as far as a 9mm. * #2400, Reloader 7, 11, 12, and 15 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. 44 Magnum,. 44 magnum, both with a 7. A majority of hunters are more comfortable with a. I have a break-action rifle chambered in. Bigger is better. But sticking to rifles I would choose the 45-70, 444 marlin, 450 marlin or (hee hee) 458 win mag. The early production ammo I used for testing had some cartridge case anomalies, so I had to sort out a handful with imperfect crimps. It works superbly with comparatively light bullets in. In many cases, the round will take down an elk as long as you are able to place it well. Out to 150 yards it's deadly on deer. 357 S&W Mag-num,. 357 magnum remaining 12 months, I determined to transport up to a. ” This is a 240-gr soft-cast, hollow-point +P load, and it is advertised as a real game-changer when it comes to taking deer — hence the name “Deer Grenade. [ citation needed ] The. And of course, any revolver chambered for. 99; 38 Special 130gr RNFP - REMAN $ 110. 44 Magnum Revolvers 3. Quantity - 50 rounds per box Manufacturer - Fiocchi Ammunition Bullets - 240 grain jacketed soft-point (JSP) Casings - Boxer-primed brass. Beware factory ammo meant for revolvers--if you move it 300 fps faster, then bullet performance gets erratic. They claim to make their LC brass a lot sturdier than run of the mill 45LC brass, and say it is capable of magnum pressures. Will use a Krieger 1:9. 308 and posession (at the federal level) of AP handgun ammo precludes civilian. I don't have a. 30-06 or 7mm Remington Magnum®. It was designed for the deer hunter in mind. Burning rate falls near the various 4227s. Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the. (Our family total is four deer with. After long experience, I can comfortably say that Black Hills’ 240gr round is probably the premiere slayer of mid-sized game in this caliber. Since purchasing it, I have sent 1000’s of rounds down range with it with never even a failure. I prefer the. 32 H&R Magnum is a rimmed cartridge designed for use in revolvers. Then I'd go with it. 38 Special’s, so the. A 44 Mag or 45LC out of a 16 inch closed breach barrel has significantly more energy than a revolver. However, when I used to shoot a 300 Win Mag with 180gr various bullets for hunting, the game appeared to take a harder hit and drop a lot faster even though that large bullet may have been traveling slower and with. 44 Mag Ammo In Stock by Fiocchi. 308 Winchester In The Steyr Scout 308 Winchester Target Loads 30-338 Winchester Magnum 30-404 Improved 300 Remington Ultra Magnum. 45-70 govt reloads; 30-06 sprg reloads; lax factory new. 38 Special Ammo Henry Big Boy Color Case Hardened Lever Action Rifle. 62 × 67 mm) is a popular magnum rifle cartridge that was introduced by Winchester Repeating Arms Company in 1963 as a member of the family of Winchester Magnum cartridges. 300 Win Mag,. 357 S&W Mag-num,. 308 is about 250 ft-lbs of energy more powerful at the muzzle, a match 6. 44 SPL round. 308 Winchester,. 308 Win vs 5. Which is Best for You? The 300 Win Mag vs. 308 Cartridge. 308 Norma, Apr 5, 2018. 357 Magnum vs 44 Magnum: History The. To me this adds up to greater knock down power out to 50 yds anyway. 300 Winchester Magnum. 357 mag has more velocity and energy. 45 colt, Bisley Ruger. 308 is far more powerful than the 44 mag. The rifle has plenty of power to stop a hog, and is accurate for her out to 100 yards. Generally speaking, the primary handgun cartridge choices for deer hunting include the. So, according to the chart, the 308 kicks about half again as hard. 95 (varies by caliber). I took countless deer using a Ruger 44 Carbine rifle. At 200 yards the. 44 versions in the store when we bought my first one, and much preferring the way the little 1894C handled. Also is a 7mm WSM and a 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. 44 , handguns , rifles , video. My biggest to date was killed with a 44 mag winchester rifle shooting 300 grain XTPs. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. 015″) as well as overall length (3. 44 magnum is a real stopper. They are accurate, easy to clean, and easier to use for most shooters than the lever action rifles. I will use a 44 Magnum Ruger Carbine or a Slug-gun here in my homestate. ) the 308 Winchester delivers about 18 ft. 308 Winchester is 2. 44 mag for deer hunting? I was advised to get a. 44 Mag is generally either a bit underpowered or slightly overpowered. 44 Magnum is a good round. Whitetail deer, for example, will fall to a 300 grain round easily. In response to this change in Michigan law, Randy's Hunting Center got the novel idea to approach Ruger to see if they'd be willing to design a new bolt-action rifle in. i think the only time there should be any change, is if you handload. 30/30 has a 170 gr bullet going 2150. Check out our full line of rifles, shotguns, pistols, clothing, shooting accessories, gun safes, knives, and flashlights. com)- As most of us know, 5. for deer sized game probably 250 or so. 338 Federal vs 308 Winchester vs 358 Winchester: What You Need To Know Best. lloyd smale · Moderator. 44 Special round, used in larger revolvers, was the rough equivalent to. 308 case holds 56 grains of water compared to the. 327 Magnum 380 ACP 9mm Luger 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum 480 Ruger 50 AE 500 Magnum: 223 Remington 243 Winchester 270 Winchester 300 Winchester Magnum 300 AAC Blackout 30-30 Winchester 30-06 Springfield 308 Winchester 50 Beowulf 5. This specific cartridge came into production by Winchester in 1963, so this, when compared to other popular hunting cartridges, is fairly new though quite a bit older than the other cartridge we are looking at in this article. 41 Magnum is a great round, better than. , mainly because it’s a lot of unnecessary recoil, in my opinion, where other calibers would suffice (. And one specific difference from 44 Mag. Many hunters are convinced the. We stock Browning BLR rifles, Remington rifles, Marlin rifles, Savage rifles, Winchester rifles, Howa rifles, Tikka rifles, Ros. The 41 mag’s head size just before the rim is. 308 Winchester is a short-action cartridge that has marvelous ballistics. Call it 3,000 fps. 62x51mm, and 6. 308 vs 30-06 vs 300 Win Mag: Which One Should You Be Hunting With? 270 vs 308: Cartridge Sizes. Expect bulk ammo deals, discount firearms, parts to build your AR or upgrade your Glock, survival gear, WWII military surplus, camping supplies, range gear and more. All have taken deer cleanly. I shot three deer with the 300 XTP Mag a couple of years ago. 357 Maximum,. 44 Magnum still kills a lot of deer in the Northeast each season. I own three Taurus Handguns. 44 magnum is a real stopper. However, there used to be a Hi-Speed hunting load for use in rifles. 44 Magnum is going to kill a deer as dead as a. 30-06 is that the former uses a shorter case, as. Still more expensive to get. 300 win mag within the Cartridges & Calibers forums, part of the Sniping Related category; Other than possible cost of ammo and recoil what are some down sides of the 300 vs the 308? For instance the Savage 10FCP-K VS. 300 Winchester Magnum, known as the. Read About 308 vs 300 Win Mag. 44 , handguns , rifles , video. 015″) as well as overall length (3. 300 H&H Magnum. Persons carrying big sidearms as protection against grizzly -- such as. 2400 and Unique are fine for special and magnum type loads, which, from your carbine, will turn into magnum and magnum+ loads. 17 Winchester Super Magnum 12 308 Winchester, 20 in, Black Stock, Black Finish $ 451. Enough has been written about the. This ammo delivers enormous energy and stopping power with a muzzle energy of 1194 ft. 357 Magnum Cowboy; Cowboy 41. 44 special is smaller and lighter than a. Even though there are 40+ years between development of the two cartridges, they share a lot in common when used for hunting in modern times. 8 cm: 42" 106. 357 Magnum cartridges were made to be used by the police department as they needed a better terminal performing handgun load in the 1930s. i have used one for years. The 44 will likely have a "heavy" recoil, but the 308 recoil will be very "sharp". 243 Winchester vs. 270 Winchester and. 44 Magnum may well be all the rifle you ever needed. Deer Grenade. I use a 308 It replace 30-06 in my deer rifle selection when I hunt out-of-state. 44 magnum is a real stopper. If you lived in thicketed and wooded "backcountry", the. 223 Remington is a cartridge with almost the same external dimensions as the 5. 338 - but I'd opt for 30-06 (I have owned one of those). 30-30 placed correctly will take either deer or hogs out to the limit of your eyesight with irons. But, the biggest magnums suitable for elk hunting are usually way too much for deer and a lot harder to shoot well because of recoil. They are very afordable also. All Walk-in Traffic by Appointment Only! 362 North Main Street Tooele, UT 84074 Toll Free Number: 1-866-471-4867 Local Number: (435) 659-3876--Phone Hours--. Both deer hunters and police officers switch to slugs when shooting long-range targets. they were never a thing in the 19th century) I was concerned that the small rim on 45 Colt might not extract well, and there would be occasions when the ow. I own a Henry in 44 Mag and have been shopping for a 1895 Marlin CB in 45/70, for deer hunting. Decent for deer, bear, elk, moose, and all within reasonable distances. 300 Win Mag takes a 30-cal bullet as does the. Most of the popular 44 Mag powders - are flake - especially in factory 44 Mag ammunition. 357 Magnum Enough for Deer Hunting” on November 17. 32-20 will reward the reloader with exceptional accuracy, one has to be more than a little traditional-minded to appreciate the. Nothing against the 270, it would do the job also. The 41 mag’s head size just before the rim is. 5, #2230, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company. Which one will come out on top? Paul's Patreon: https://www. 44 Magnum except to take advantage of its superior velocity and bullet weight. 243 and 7mm-08. I would feel comfortable using the 308, 30-06 on larger game, including Elk, Moose, Caribou, Deer, and Black Bear. A typical factory load for the. 00 2d 13h 56m 1. * #2400, Reloader 7, 11, 12, and 15 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. Both are deadly and I agree that the real issue is range. 44 does what is required with authority. 300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. 44 Mag is a more expensive cartridge. 308 is a 30 caliber bullet and lends itself very well to both big game hunting and precision shooting. 44 Special cartridges and the. 45 Colt and. 308 Norma Magnum. Unfortunately, conventional 44 Magnum bullets provide substantial barriers to the production of maximum power within safe pressure limits. Keep trying diff 30-06 ammo (maybe heavier/lighter grain), use the ol'30-30, or move to a 44 mag (either lever gun or Ruger carbine)? I'm leaning towards a new 44 mag deer gun for close range deer hunting only. 300 WSM and. 44 Special handloads presaged an even more potent round. 44 magnum bullet can reach even higher velocities of up to 1,500 feet per second, generating relatively more muzzle energy, up to 1,199 foot. If you have a shotgun that is a repeater and shoots slugs or sabots well, then it is difficult to make an economic argument for buying a 44 mag rifle. 300 Weatherby Magnum,. You will think the 308 recoils more, particularly with factory ammo. The 264 Winchester Magnum, like many cartridges with big cases and skinny bullets, has developed a reputation as a “barrel burner”. 17 Winchester Super Magnum 12 308 Winchester, 20 in, Black Stock, Black Finish $ 451. The rest of the "magnum" craze is history. 44 special can be hotroded in some popular guns to reach the low end of. 44 mag for hunting whitetail but then I decided to take a look at the ballistics on Remington's website. , most notably the Ruger Model 44 carbine, a sweet-handling, compact and potent woods rifle, perfect for whitetail deer and black bear where shots are close. 44 Mag first! I've killed deer in Ohio with the following handgun calibers;. 300 win mag Let me preface by saying I've not hunted bears, or shot a. So, the cartridge was developed by Elmer Keith, Phil Sharpe, along with Smith and Wesson, by performing changes on the. The round is popular for both big game hunting and long range shooting. Even old style, all lead bullets have been shown to hammer deer out to 150 yards. 308 Winchester at 7. 45 Winchester Magnum. That said, I've taken deer with a. This does not mean we do not have confidence in any other calibers. 30-06 was first introduced in 1906 with the Springfield 1903 bolt action rifle; since then, it has won the hearts of many and managed to remain one of the most popular rifle cartridges in the world, even today. 44 Magnum rifle. 300 Whisper. 270 Weatherby Magnum, 7 x 61 Sharpe & Hart, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 7mm STW,. 308 Norma Magnum. 44 Magnums -- may or may not be aware that the handgun's power is nowhere near that of a. 243 versus 44 mag for deer I have used a marlin 44 mag for deer hunting the last several years and have had good success with it. It was originally introduced in 1906, and was originally used in the United States Army. 44 mag vs 12 gauge slug Which do you guys think is more accurate a single shot. 44 Magnum For Elk. A 240 grain 44 magnum at 1250 FPS has an effective range out beyond 100 yards where the 45 Colt with a 260g bullet at 1050 FPS is going to be shooting rainbows. 308 Norma Magnum. It is, by nature, a limited. For me it's aesthetics. 308 are legal (such as the. 308's and currently I hunt with several caliber rifles, including a. A 180 grain, 0. I have also shot a deer with a 250 gr Keith at 1200 fps and the deer never knew the difference. 44 mag is still a pistol round, and is loaded as such. My child also took a nice big doe that weighed 150 pounds field dressed. 12 ga slugs to the chest often let 100 lb deer run 50 yds or more. 44 Mag uses relatively fast burning powders, you'll probably achieve maximum velocity in a 16 to 18 inch barrel. 3grns of IMR 4227 with 180 grn lead bullets. The newer carbine like pete said was a mini 14 on steroids and had in issue with ejected brass hitting the bottom of the scope if you had one on it ,they even came with a padded leather scope protector and I'm in complete agreement with Pete on the neat factor of the original deerstalker mine. The Ruger Mdl. 44 Magnum is a version of the. 338 win mag vs. Remember a. Check out our full line of rifles, shotguns, pistols, clothing, shooting accessories, gun safes, knives, and flashlights. 44 Mag, and 10mm. I am mostly interested in the. 44 mag handgun. When looking through the scope and firing, there will be no recoil, allowing the player character to snipe multiple targets. 44 Special handloads presaged an even more potent round. I use receiver sights on all my lever guns including my Marlin 45-70 Cowboy and Savage 99 308, which i have installed since these photos was taken. 43 inch diameter bullet exiting the muzzle at 1,600 fps or better will immediately drop every human being on the face of the planet. 44 magnum this yr. 357 are fun and easy to use in a rifle, but the. When it comes to deer hunting, this round offers everything a person needs. Cheaper Than Dirt! is America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, and we live up to that title. The Scar might be a fun gun in. 5 feet for easy ground-level access Included Pro Hunter II Feeder Kit includes met. The rifle has plenty of power to stop a hog, and is accurate for her out to 100 yards. Call it 3,000 fps. to get adequate penetration. I now use both a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk and a single shot Rossi rifle and have had good success. 357 are cheeper then. 44 Mag is generally either a bit underpowered or slightly overpowered. 30-30 placed correctly will take either deer or hogs out to the limit of your eyesight with irons. It will by all means kill deer at limited ranges like others have said, but there’s many rounds that will likely serve you better, unless you live in an area that you will only see short shots or a state where straight wall cartridges are the law. 44 Special 20" Oct. 44 mag THINK they need. I have also shot a deer with a 250 gr Keith at 1200 fps and the deer never knew the difference. Owner of Buffalo Bore Tim Sundles on Heavy Deer Grenade 44 Magnum +P Ammunition: Buffalo Bore's Deer Grenade 44 Mag. ) The 44 Mag in its SAAMI restricted pressure range is a different beast and it is a good and proven killer but. Soft Cast - G. 257 Weatherby Magnum, 6. 500 Magnum round will weigh more than twice as much and. As a result, the. 308 could be added as well. 7mm-08 There is a catch: a 140 grain 7mm bullet differs considerably from a 150 grain. 3grns of IMR 4227 with 180 grn lead bullets. Obviously, I can’t talk about modern. The first gun out the gate will be a distributor special edition with a 3. COM MERCH!!! https://teespring. 308 Winchester. 44 Magnum,. 30-06 or 7mm Remington Magnum®. At close range a. 62x51 20" Barrel 30-06 Springfield; 300 H&H Magnum 300 Remington Short Action Utlra Mag 300 Norma Magnum (NEW) 300 Winchester Magnum (NEW) 300 WSM 300 Weatherby Magnum 300 Remington Ultra Magnum (NEW) 30-378 Weatherby. 38 that was used back then. carver has it right,a 44mag rifle should be used no differently than a 30/30 winchester effective range at about 100 yards. The 264 Winchester Magnum, like many cartridges with big cases and skinny bullets, has developed a reputation as a “barrel burner”. Cheaper Than Dirt! is America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter, and we live up to that title. But, the biggest magnums suitable for elk hunting are usually way too much for deer and a lot harder to shoot well because of recoil. Paul pits a Marlin 30-30 rifle against a Marlin 44 magnum rifle. A 180 grain, 0. A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. 308 subsonic vs 44 mag subsonic - any thoughts? Post by drew2 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:30 pm I've been playing around with 180gn & 200gn 308 subsonic (using trailboss and clays) and I shoot out to about 250 yds max with it (mostly a lot less than that), I'm wondering if there would be much benefit in me using a 44 mag 240gn subsonic out to this range?. Nope, this bad boy is chambered in. 44 Magnum rifle than a shotgun when I am hunting for deer. 308 Cons: 1. Out past maybe 40 yards or so the 44 mag has lost energy but the 30-30 is still good to go. Obviously, I can’t talk about modern. 17 Winchester Super Magnum 12 308 Winchester, 20 in, Black Stock, Black Finish $ 451. 3grns of IMR 4227 with 180 grn lead bullets. 30/30 for deer. 308″ diameter bullet. 25-20 Winchester,. A deer at 125 yards wont be able to tell the difference between the. I would agree with Quakr,. Quality made steel shooting targets by Magnum Target. 44 MAGNUM HUNTER is a standout for handgun hunters. 300 Win Mag,. 380 ACP Ammo. After long experience, I can comfortably say that Black Hills’ 240gr round is probably the premiere slayer of mid-sized game in this caliber. Sep 4, 2020 at 5:44 PM #1. Now as far as 7mm magnums go, there are several options. Elmer Keith’s. Tod Bound self records the harvest of a whitetail deer with a Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun. 44 rifle, although I think the Rossi or particularly the "cowboy" Marlin would be good. As you can see in the photo below, the. they were never a thing in the 19th century) I was concerned that the small rim on 45 Colt might not extract well, and there would be occasions when the ow. bullets vs. 44 mag vs 45-70 I was reading some posts (on another forum) where members were discussing whether a. 44-40 guns. 257 Weatherby Magnum, 6. That's just as true of the 12 ga slug, the. The 41 mag’s head size just before the rim is. Keep trying diff 30-06 ammo (maybe heavier/lighter grain), use the ol'30-30, or move to a 44 mag (either lever gun or Ruger carbine)? I'm leaning towards a new 44 mag deer gun for close range deer hunting only. It is an accurate, long-range round with a relatively flat trajectory. 308 Norma Magnum. 99; 38 Special 130gr RNFP - REMAN $ 110. A 240 grain 44 magnum at 1250 FPS has an effective range out beyond 100 yards where the 45 Colt with a 260g bullet at 1050 FPS is going to be shooting rainbows. Naturally, the 30-30 flings its bullets much faster than the 44 mag, and has a considerably higher energy — but I can attest that the 44 magnum with good 240-grain jacketed bullets is one heck of a fine game-getter. 300 Win Mag vs. 7mm Rem Mag; 270 Winchester; 270 Wby Mag; 270 WSM; 300 Whisper; 300 AAC Blackout; 7. A charge of 7. com/user?u=5769301 This. the Model 100 was Winchester’s answer to Remington and Ruger’s line of wood-stocked semi-auto deer guns. 44 Magnum bullet (the. 44 Magnum,. 32 Remington. The difference is the distance at which you can expect to achieve good hits. So, according to the chart, the 308 kicks about half again as hard. 30 Carbine through the. com)- As most of us know, 5. 308 is a capable deer and elk rifle out to about 300 yards. Sell your 44 magnum for FREE today on GunsAmerica!. 308 will be lethal on deer out to what many guys on this forum consider pretty **** far - 700-800 yards - your challenge out there will be the wind. has more recoil and muzzle blast and burns more powder than the. 300 win mag. 56 Nato Cost. Velocity: 2,775 fps (varies by caliber) MSRP: $46. is best used with scopes in the 4x range, although irons and red-dot sights are also great. 44 magnum round at 100 yds. With the success of this rifle, the company has expanded the line to include a model. 30 caliber cartridge suited to the job. You will think the 308 recoils more, particularly with factory ammo. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. The fmj (full metal jacket) round is also commonly used by recreational shooters, by the military for sniping, and by police for sharpshooting. 300 Win Mag is. How We Do Everything. 44 mag for hunting whitetail but then I decided to take a look at the ballistics on Remington's website.
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